This whole industry’s springing up and there are articles about it. And no
article could skip a company with a name like Apple.
Livingston: How’d you come up with “Apple”?
Wozniak: Steve came up with it. I do remember that one. I picked him up at
the San Francisco airport and I was driving down the Bay on 101 and then on
85, and it was on 85 that he said, “Oh, I’ve got a name for the company. Apple
Computer.” Both of us were sitting there trying to come up with techie names...

size. And it’s funny, but every computer since the Apple I, including the
Polymorphics technology Sol computer that came next (it was out of our club),
had a keyboard and a video display. No computer had done this before that. No
small computer was coming with a keyboard yet. The Apple I was the first and
the Apple II was the third. Basically every computer since then had a keyboard
and a video display. The world has never gone back from that day. Now the
Apple II was the great design. I designed it...

Man, when I actually finally put together this little circuit and put some data
into memory that should show up as color and it showed up color, it was just
one of those eureka moments and you’re just shaking inside. It was just unbelievable.
Here we had it in just a couple of chips. I had color, and then I had
graphics, and then I had hi-res, and then I had paddles and sound to put games
into the machine. It had dynamic memory—it had the newest right type of
dynamic memory that could...

should do it cheap. We should just have black and white; we should have the
cheapest keyboard you can imagine, the smallest screen, and just keep the costs
way down.” They wanted to make it cheap enough to be affordable. The funny
thing is that the Apple II had so few parts, it was cheaper to build and still was
much more of a computer. We didn’t have to include a TV set, because we
assumed everyone had their own.
Livingston: Why didn’t Commodore want it?
Wozniak: Good question. Andre Sousan very soon...

in the home. Home computers. We didn’t even have the word “personal
computer” yet; that came about a little later. Because we were trying to say,
“How do we establish this new type of computer? What’s special about it?” In
the old days, several people would use one computer all at the same time. This
was the first time you’d have one computer all your own. So it’s a personal computer.
It’s almost maybe a negative in some ways, but we’re making it a positive.
So Mike said that he would put in the...