in the home. Home computers. We didn’t even have the word “personal
computer” yet; that came about a little later. Because we were trying to say,
“How do we establish this new type of computer? What’s special about it?” In
the old days, several people would use one computer all at the same time. This
was the first time you’d have one computer all your own. So it’s a personal computer.
It’s almost maybe a negative in some ways, but we’re making it a positive.
So Mike said that he would put in the money we needed to make 1,000
computers—$250,000. Boy, that sounded astounding. $250,000 back in those
days was like a couple million today, maybe.
Livingston: Were you still in Jobs’s parents’ garage?
Wozniak:Well, actually we never did much in the garage. People think we had
a garage where we sat down with soldering irons and we designed stuff. No.
The only designs that ever took place in the Apple I or II for hardware or software
were in my apartment in Cupertino or my cubicle at Hewlett-Packard late
at night. That’s the only place any building got done.
The computers were manufactured at a place in Santa Clara. They made
the PC boards, they stuffed the parts in, they wave-soldered it. Steve would
drive down and then drive them back to his garage. We did use the garage at his
place—we had a lab bench there and we would plug in the PC boards of the
Apple Is and test them on a keyboard. If they worked, we’d put them in a box.
If they didn’t work, we’d fix them and put them in a box. Eventually, Steve