Livingston: On the...
Livingston: On the East Coast?
Wozniak: I believe that’s where we arranged it. Mike Markkula had worked
with this guy Hank Smith at Intel, so that’s how they knew each other. And I
think Don Valentine actually put some money in, but then it came to a point
where he wanted to make some good money and buy some stock off Steve Jobs
for like $5.50 before we went public. $5.50 a share, and Steve thought it was too
low. Oh, those two. Don Valentine doesn’t like it when people don’t agree
with him.
Livingston: Is there anything that people have wrong about the early days of
Apple?
Wozniak: Steve and I never really had an argument. Nobody ever saw us have
an argument. The disputes were very rare and minor, of any sort between us,
and they were usually just misunderstandings. He’d read something in the
paper like I had said it. A lot of times papers got things wrong. They made it
sound like I was leaving Apple because I was upset once about things inside of
Apple and quoted me on a lot of things. The Wall Street Journal did. I told the
reporter, “The reason I’m leaving is to start a new startup company to build a
remote control. It’s something I want to do.” I had gone on a whiteboard and
shown all the Apple executives what it was so nobody would accuse me of trying
to go out and start a company that was competitive. As a matter of fact, they
kept me on the payroll. They kept me as an Apple employee. They wished me
well and told me that it was non-competitive in writing. But the Wall Street
Journal got this story down that I was leaving Apple because I didn’t like things
going on there.
I had complained about the way some Apple II engineers were being
treated like they didn’t exist in the days of the Macintosh. I mean, we weren’t
even allowed to buy the floppy disk from Sony that we wanted in the Apple II
division, because it would be better than the one that was going to go in the
Macintosh. But it was the right one. So that sort of thing. Salaries, bonuses, etc.
So I spoke up for some of those engineers in that article, but they made it sound
like I was leaving, and I wasn’t, not for that reason. Misconceptions . . . there
are so many. It’s like every book I read that I just think, “God, this is not how
this person was at all.” So I don’t really care, I don’t try to correct anything. But
the world doesn’t really have that much of it wrong in the end. I’m surprised
when I go on the Web and I read all sorts of discussions about the Apple II and
my role. It’s actually very flattering and accurate.
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