Man, when I actually finally put together this little circuit and put some data
into memory that should show up as color and it showed up color, it was just
one of those eureka moments and you’re just shaking inside. It was just unbelievable.
Here we had it in just a couple of chips. I had color, and then I had
graphics, and then I had hi-res, and then I had paddles and sound to put games
into the machine. It had dynamic memory—it had the newest right type of
dynamic memory that could expand almost forever. All sorts of slots with a little
mini–operating system that actually worked incredibly well. The Apple II was
just one of those designs. Anybody could build things to add on to it, anybody
could write programs, they could write sophisticated programs, they could
write it in machine language, they could write it in my Basic. So that machine,
there was just nothing stopping it.
We knew we’d sell 1,000 a month, but we couldn’t afford to build them. So
we sought money, and one of the first places we went to was Commodore. To
the guy who had been the product marketing manager for the 6502 microprocessor
that I had chosen. I had actually bought them at a show in San
Francisco over the counter for 20 bills. He and his wife would hand them to us
at the table. That’s how we bought our first microprocessors that became the
Apple I and Apple II, from this guy Chuck Peddle. He now was moving to
Commodore to do a computer. We said, “We’ve got to show him the Apple II.”
So we brought him by the garage. I really respected the guy; he designed
the microprocessor that I had chosen. He came to the garage and looked at the
Apple II, and I put it through all its specs of bringing up quick patterns on the
screen and scrolling text and playing games—all the things I’d done on it. He
looked at it and didn’t say too much. I figured he’d be more impressed. We later
heard that Commodore turned it down.
We went in and spoke one day to Commodore’s head of engineering, Andre
Sousan, and Andre told us that his boss who ran Commodore, Jack Tramiel, had
basically brought in Chuck Peddle and Chuck had talked him into “No, you
don’t want to put all these exotic things like color into it.” The truth is, he didn’t
know how to. No one knew how to do color cheap. There were boards out for
small computers. Cromemco had a color system. You buy two boards for your
Altair; each of those had more chips than the Apple II on it. So, just to add
color, that’s what it was like for most people. And Chuck Peddle said, “You